We devote today's double podcast to discussing the recent ASEAN foreign minister meeting and why this is a critical component of the development of the multipolar world. The discussions at this meeting are now seeing the implementation of many of the policy initiatives we have been discussing for a number of years. The pace of change is now gathering momentum and the realisation in the Global South that the unipolar world is now over and the need to develop the multipolar world has to gain traction rapidly.